Daily Archives: Monday, January 12, 2009

Quote of the day

‘Joe’ The ‘Plumber’

 Conservatives persist with him because they wrongly believe he pisses liberals off. As with many such things, Joe the Plumber never pissed off liberals. What did piss off liberals was a mainstream news media who allowed some random dude who would benefit from Obama’s proposed economic plan to become some sort of stand in for the everyman who Obama would be keeping from achieving success somehow.

Now? We’re just laughing at you, clowns.

Atrios at Eschaton http://www.eschatonblog.com/

Big fat bonus headline of the day – “You dim lying fuck” category

Bush:   Nation’s ‘Moral Standing’ Still Intact

masochists will wish to continue reading here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/front.htm

Headline of the day- “No, you don’t say?!” category

Economy Made Few Gains in Bush Years

President Bush has presided over the weakest eight-year span for the U.S. economy in decades, according to an analysis of key data, and economists across the ideological spectrum increasingly view his two terms as a time of little progress on the nation’s thorniest fiscal challenges.

continue reading here:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/11/AR2009011102301.html?nav=hcmodule

Ya had yer Reagonomics and then you gotcher Bush version, Endofdaysonomics.

I am honored, of course

Some of you, dear readers, will have bumped into an old Crossfire show where Frank Zappa debated a Mr. John Lofton, then a Washington Times columnist (that is one great newspaper).   There’s a better than middling chance that I have it posted somewhere on this blog.  In any event, here it is below.  But hold on a second…the reason I’ve brought our attention back to Frank and John is that John yesterday added a helpful comment to one of my posts.  So, here’s the video of the Crossfire episode and a link back to my new friend John and the beginning of what I hope will be a long and fruitful relationship:

http://bernielatham.wordpress.com/2009/01/11/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-trouble-maker/

Today’s arse (liars and obscurantists wishing to make you stupid)

Bill Kristol.  Arse.

Rightwing propagandists have a difficult job of it with Obama.  He’s calm and collected (no “Dean scream” moments); he’s photogenic as hell and carries himself with dignity (so none of those sophmoric and clown-like Bush expressions we’ve come to wait for); he speaks and thinks exceedingly well (so no Bushisms to yuk about); his family could be used in a promo from the values crowd (hard-working, respectful, high-achieving, beautiful to look at, heart-warming smiles);  his brain and tongue aren’t dragged hither and thither by compensatory arrogance (so no “Bring ’em on” or “You have to kind of catapult the propaganda” show-stoppers);  he’s athletic and physically imposing (so the standard “He looks like an effete Frenchman” suggestions of unmanliness ain’t going to cut it);  and the ‘change’ theme he voices and represents is not merely balanced and pragmatic and Lincolnesque but is also deeply attractive to majorities in the electorate. 

So, what is a conservative propagandist like Kristol, whose primary function is to make Obama look lousy and whose target audience is more educated and thoughtful than the Limbaugh/talk radio audience, to do?  Well, how about implying that Obama actually represents no change from the administration he is about to replace?  That tough reality (faced gallantly by the outgoing administration) is forcing Obama towards a sort of carbon-copy obedience/subservience to Bush attitudes and policies?  Obama fancy-talk plus a cruel world get you Dick Cheney. 

And, pay attention to the dog stuff at the beginning. 

“Continuity We Can Believe In”     

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/opinion/12kristol.html?hp

Update:   Andrew Sullivan the column from Today’s Arse Bill Kristol

One of the chief intellectual architects of Republican collapse is now claiming that Barack Obama is the natural heir of Dick Cheney. It’s the usual bait, and I hope Obama supporters don’t take it. Take this nugget of agitprop, when Kristol spins Obama’s acknowledgment that until he is fully versed in what the Bush-Cheney administration actually did, he is at the same disadvantage we all are in knowing how to tackle Cheney’s lawlessness:

“I think that was pretty good advice, which is I should know what’s going on before we make judgments and that we shouldn’t be making judgments on the basis of incomplete information or campaign rhetoric. So I’ve got no quibble with that particular quote,” said Obama. Usually, presidents pretend their campaign positions are more than “campaign rhetoric.” Not Obama.

So according to Kristol, Obama campaigned on a platform of reforming interrogation without actually finding out specifically what “the program” was already doing? Please. Of course, there’s a period of fact-finding and judgment-forming that can only be done once you’re in power and can see what has actually been authorized. That’s all Obama concedes in the interview. He leaves open prosecution for law-breaking. He just – understandably – wants to avoid any immediate partisan brawl.

The pushback from the torture advocates has been intense these past few days.

They know their days are numbered and that a real assessment of what they’ve been up to is imminent. I do not favor prosecuting CIA officials who have not been clearly found to have committed war crimes and who were simply following orders they were told by the relevant authorities was legal. I am in favor of exposing the full truth about the last eight years so that the civilians who authorized the US’s transformation into a torturing country can be held to account. If in that process of discovery, evidence of authorization of war crimes emerges, the Justice Department will have no option but to prosecute. As Dahlia puts it:

It’s not a witch hunt simply because political actors are under investigation. The process of investigating and prosecuting crimes makes up the bricks and mortar of our prosecutorial system. We don’t immunize drug dealers, pickpockets or car thieves because holding them to account is uncomfortable, difficult or divisive. We don’t protest that “it’s all behind us now” when a bank robber is brought to trial.

Remember when Bill Kristol was in favor of the rule of law? That was when it could be used to justify impeaching a president for perjury in a civil suit. Now it’s about prosecuting war crimes, he’s for “moving on.” There is no principle for this guy. Just party. And whatever works for now.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/01/on-not-taking-t.html#more

Krugman says more

Last week President-elect Barack Obama was asked to respond to critics who say that his stimulus plan won’t do enough to help the economy. Mr. Obama answered that he wants to hear ideas about “how to spend money efficiently and effectively to jump-start the economy.”

O.K., I’ll bite — although as I’ll explain shortly, the “jump-start” metaphor is part of the problem.

full column here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/12/opinion/12krugman.html?_r=1&hp